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Re: If it hurts, it's not love
Reply #120 - 03.03.2004 at 13:53:14

IF I DON'T FEEL, I DIE

Without feeling, we cannot feel alive, we cannot feel joy, we cannot feel enough to know that we are in pain, and need to change what we are doing. Most of all, our feelings help us to find what is meaningful. Meaning goes along with feeling. It gives us direction and purpose. When we are fulfilling our purpose, when we are living out of true meaning, we are living Heaven's meaning, not all of the useless little jobs we make for ourself. In this, we find a state of joy, love, and creativity. It is important to feel as much as we can so we can expand ourself, because if we do not feel, we die. What feels painful is there as our barometer, indicating the need to change some choice we made in our life. What is negative can be felt and let go of.

Today is a day to give up being one of God's frozen people. Allow yourself to really feel. Allow your feelings to direct you to all the states of love, joy, fun, and happiness. If there is a bad feeling, feel it until it is gone, or make the change necessary. Really allow yourself to feel good today. Learn how to say, "Aaaaaah!"

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Nobena čarovnija ne more ničesar spremeniti v kaj drugega, tega ni; sprememba v predstavi v srcu čarovnije je spoznanje, ne ustvarjanje.&&(S. Palwick)

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sinjeoka 5 Offline No guts no glory! Posts: 2783 Gender:	Re: If it hurts, it's not love Reply #121 - 03.03.2004 at 13:55:37 torej..koga ne sme boleti .. tistega, ki ljubi ali tistega, ki je ljubljen?
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DaBi Ex Member	Re: If it hurts, it's not love Reply #122 - 03.03.2004 at 13:59:58 If it hurts, it's not love ..nobenega.
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m 5 p Offline Posts: 6632 Gender:	Re: If it hurts, it's not love Reply #123 - 03.03.2004 at 14:12:45 Devi wrote on 03.03.2004 at 13:53:14: IF I DON'T FEEL, I DIE tnx, Devi
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Lilith Ex Member	Re: If it hurts, it's not love Reply #124 - 03.03.2004 at 14:13:50 Jaz tudi prav ne razumem naslova tega topica. A potem gre tukaj za neko vzročno-posledično ali pa korelativno povezavo, kjer pojem ljubezni izključuje vsako bolečino, ali kako?
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sinjeoka 5 Offline No guts no glory! Posts: 2783 Gender:	Re: If it hurts, it's not love Reply #125 - 03.03.2004 at 14:14:27 Quote: If it hurts, it's not love ..nobenega. kaj pa če je nesrečna?
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Reply #126 - 04.03.2004 at 09:01:40

Lilith wrote on 03.03.2004 at 14:13:50:

Jaz tudi prav ne razumem naslova tega topica. A potem gre tukaj za neko vzročno-posledično ali pa korelativno povezavo, kjer pojem ljubezni izključuje vsako bolečino, ali kako?

Bi predlagala branje knjižice Zavedanje, Anthonyja de Mella

http://www.gape.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=knjige_filmi;action=display;num=1...

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Reply #127 - 04.03.2004 at 11:00:13

Nekaj o duši dvojčici...

meni se tole zdi zgolj eno veliko nalaganje .. duša dvojčica mene asociira na enojajčne dvojčke, ki so si podobni kot jace jajcu ... toda, če pogledam enojajčne dvojčke, ki jih jaz poznam, so si po duši totalka različni. Da sploh ne pomislim še na tiste, ki sploh niso enojajčni dvojčki (like moja mami in še nekaj članov naše širše familije).

Pa naj bo .. recimo, da obstaja še ena taka dušica, ki je čisto podobna moji ... ma bog ne daj, da jo kdaj srečam ... bi me bilo kar strah videt sebe v drugem, iste misli, občutki, istočasni upsand downs ... skratka vse isto .... a ni to dolgčas?

Idejo o duši dvojčici sem prvič zasledila cca. 10 let nazaj, ko je moja mami začela hodit k enemu zdravilcu... coliral je full, koristi pa od njega ni bilo nobene... in pol je kar na enkrat začel glupit o duši dvojčici in 1x je pripeljal predstavit na neko seanso "svojo dušo dvojčico".. bilo je dekle, staro 16 let in full srčkano ... on pa star, povožen, zgubljen, zaluzeriran dec ... v glavnem da dol padeš... takih duš dvojčic namreč lahko srečam na tone ... zgodba med tema dvema dušama dvojčicama je pa v bistvu taka...

Mama od dekleta je hodila k temu zdravilcu na kao bioenergetske zdravilne seanse. Pa je 1x pripeljala tudi svojo hči, ker je bilo nekaj narobe... In pol je tipson tolk časa moril njeni mami, manipuliral...da je ženska trapa začela verjet, da je pa ta zdravilec res od boga dan njeni hčeri....no na koncu sta se poročila in imata zdajle 2 otroka... kako pa jima gre v zakonu pa ne vem...

Točno zaradi tega happeninga imam do plačljive duhovnosti, ne samo odpor, ampak sem do njega čist odkrito sovražna .. pa naj bo to za prispevke RKC ali pa kaj drugega .. je isti šit...bogatenje na račun bede in stiske sočloveka
in zato mi vsaka omemba duš dvojčic dobesedno obrne želodec

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Lilith Ex Member	Re: If it hurts, it's not love Reply #128 - 04.03.2004 at 11:23:28 sinjeoka wrote on 04.03.2004 at 11:00:13: in zato mi vsaka omemba duš dvojčic dobesedno obrne želodec Ti pa želim in te hkrati prosim, da nikar ne dopusti, da ti en tak packon okuži tvoj odnos do nečesa tako lepega in svetega, kakor je obstoj duše dvojčice.
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m 5 p Offline Posts: 6632 Gender:	Re: If it hurts, it's not love Reply #129 - 04.03.2004 at 12:28:31 sinjeoka wrote on 04.03.2004 at 11:00:13: Nekaj o duši dvojčici... da nisi topic falila? pa tvoja predstava kaj je duša dvojčica je tud bolj kot ne tvoja ... moji ni niti malo blizu
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Re: If it hurts, it's not love
Reply #130 - 04.03.2004 at 21:00:41

m wrote on 04.03.2004 at 09:01:40:

Bi predlagala branje knjižice Zavedanje, Anthonyja de Mella

Knjižica že davno prebrana, pa sedaj ti odlomki tudi...
Samo - če mi le link tle obesiš, še vedno ne vem, kaj hočeš povedati.
Lahko pa domnevam, da npr. gre za en univerzalen način ljubezni, kjer se osvobodiš vseh pričakovanj, zato te nič ne boli. Nekaj takega... Je to to?

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Re: If it hurts, it's not love
Reply #131 - 05.03.2004 at 09:13:47

Lilith wrote on 04.03.2004 at 21:00:41:

Knjižica že davno prebrana, pa sedaj ti odlomki tudi...
Samo - če mi le link tle obesiš, še vedno ne vem, kaj hočeš povedati.
Lahko pa domnevam, da npr. gre za en univerzalen način ljubezni, kjer se osvobodiš vseh pričakovanj, zato te nič ne boli. Nekaj takega... Je to to?

Ja sej če si jo prebrala - tam not vse piše, tako jaz občutim zadeve.

Mogoče ne pišem tolko iz sebe, ker se mi zdi, da sem že vse povedala, pa itak v zadnjem času svoje filinge in razmišljanja težko spravim v eno razumljivo obliko.

Ja, gre za tisto končno točko, ko bo samo še ljubezen in nobenih bolečin, ko bomo ozdravili vse svoje rane...

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RULES COVER GUILT
Reply #132 - 13.03.2004 at 16:06:36

Every rule we have covers our guilt. If we did not have the guilt, there would be no need to make rules. We would be flexible and responsive in that area. The reason we made a rule in the first place is that, at some point, we believe we made a big mistake, and to never make that mistake again, we set a rule for others and ourself. Many times the rule later becomes the problem and stands in the way of our responsiveness, and of our ability to consider what is needed in present circumstances. Of course, that is exactly what guilt does; it keeps us unresponsive. Guilt keeps us acting in the same old ritualised manner.

Today, take a look at the areas where you are rigid in your relationship. These are the areas where you feel, "It has to be this way for me." Realise that hidden under each of your rules is a sense of guilt. Be willing to let go of the rule and the guilt.

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TO BE MYSELF IS TO BE A STAR
Reply #133 - 14.03.2004 at 14:29:15

A star is a person who shines so brightly, who gives their gifts so fully, who loves so completely that everyone is drawn by the light of this star to find the way home. For us to truly know ourself is to know that we are a star. For us to truly be ourself is to recognise the genius in us, and to know what a gift we are to everyone around us. Stars may do very quiet things, but they shine an intense love-light that burns through the darkness.

Today, recognise yourself as a star, and allow anything that stops you from shining to fall away. Choose to forgive, or let go of any grievance or judgement that allows you control over yourself, others, or the situation. Choose not to use anyone or anything to hold yourself back. Choose to utterly and completely love. Nothing else will satisfy you. Nothing else is worthy of you.

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COMMITMENT OPENS ME TO RECEIVING
Reply #134 - 16.03.2004 at 23:30:29

Our commitment is our choice to fully give ourself as much as we possibly can. Giving and receiving are naturally tied together; the more we move into commitment, the more we give to something and the more we receive from it. The more we give to our partner, the more we recognise our partner's beauty, their gifts, and how great they are. Giving to them is what allows us to have the eyes of love that can truly see how wonderful they are. It is our commitment, our giving, our love, that determines how great they are. How significant a situation is for us depends on how much we have given ourself to it, how committed we are. The extent we are receiving is directly related to our level of commitment in our relationship. Any situation where we have gone beyond ourself and exceeded what we have known ourself to be, moves us into an altered state of consciousness. By giving that much, we are open to receiving great gifts of joy and ecstasy. The greater our commitment and giving, the more we can receive.

Today, look at a situation where you wish you were receiving more. Explore how you could give yourself more fully and choose to do so. Sacrifice does not count. Remember, sacrifice is counterfeit commitment. Making the choice to give of yourself allows you to enjoy the situation more. The more you give, the more you enjoy yourself, and the more you receive. Commitment is a choice for giving.

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